[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/feed.php on line 182: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3903) [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/feed.php on line 183: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3903) netsuke and sagemono loungeInternational Netsuke Society - Bringing netsuke to the digital generation...2024-01-05T03:09:47http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/feed.php?f=4947902024-01-05T03:09:472024-01-05T03:09:47http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5844773&p=87793#p87793<![CDATA[Ceramic • Re: ceramic/porcelain/pottery]]>
]]>2024-01-04T14:21:232024-01-04T14:04:18http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5844773&p=87791#p87791<![CDATA[Ceramic • Re: ceramic/porcelain/pottery]]> From Satsuma, with a red lacquer explanation on the base. 薩摩寿官製 Satsuma Jukan Sei (Product of Jukan, Satsuma). https://chin-jukan.jp/ This may be the kiln today.
]]>2021-05-05T13:54:072021-05-05T13:53:20http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5844773&p=84536#p84536<![CDATA[Ceramic • Re: ceramic/porcelain/pottery]]>Oh, sweet example. Welcome to the club!
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I believe it is made of porcelain because it is translucent when held against a light bulb, but it is glazed and stained to simulate ivory/stag antler. I have seen several pieces of this kind described as Hirado, including these two in the Silverman collection:
One thing that surprised me (as I wrote, it's my first ceramic netsuke) is how cold it feels to the touch when one picks it up. Also, I wondered how exactly it was made. As can be seen from the picture of the himotoshi, the netsuke is hollow, and the thickness of the outer material appears to be just about 2-3mm (at least in the back part). While I suppose this can be done by hand on individual pieces – basically, start from an empty cylinder and give it the desired shape – I assumed that these low-end ceramic netsuke would be mass-produced with a mold, and it was not clear to me how a hollow figurine could be obtained this way. The (simple) solution of the puzzle is described in the introduction of the book on the Silverman collection: multiple molds were used to create different parts of the figurine, which were then joined together.
Does anybody have a guess on how old my Daikoku could be?
Cheers, Pietro
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]]>2021-03-21T00:51:062021-03-21T00:51:06http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5844773&p=84191#p84191<![CDATA[Ceramic • Re: ceramic/porcelain/pottery]]>In English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutani_ware
In Japanese http://www.kutani-mus.jp/ja/kutani/styles/iroe
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PS As to the brushwork signature on the little Ojime above, I had some pointers on another site and it may read 五州 (Go-Shu) which is among other things an old name for a one-time collection of five provinces in northern Kyushu. 肥前・筑後・筑前・肥後・豊前の五国 Hizen, Echigo, Echizen, Higo and Bunzen. This area would have included the famous potteries of Arita/Imari, Nabeshima, Hirado, etc. There must be more definitive background, but I have not come across it yet. (Although 5 is written 五, there was a known variant with no top stroke.) See https://moji.tekkai.com/zoom/%F0%AB%9D%80/page.html
]]>2021-03-19T12:29:542021-03-19T12:27:13http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5844773&p=84182#p84182<![CDATA[Ceramic • Re: ceramic/porcelain/pottery]]> From a look inside the himotoshi, one can see that the holes were drilled in the greenware stage, (before firing) as there are particles from the holes left inside and attached to the walls of the openings, and glaze on the edges of the holes. Which means that the holes weren’t drilled later to repurpose it as a netsuke. I am away from my books at the moment, but in one of my porcelain books it talks about Hirado being a favored for its high quality of slip they found there. It was fine and pure. Since they were molded the slip could be poured into the mold and be thin. It is fired at the highest of temperatures, making it a very hard fire, and not so easy to chip or break as pottery snd ceramics which are fired at a much lower temp. Ceramic is also a molded slip and can be thin walled as well but is a softer firing using not such a fine slip as porcelain. So it too is hollow and breaks easier than porcelain. Jill had a pottery netsuke however that was hand shaped, and the himotoshi was the only hollow feature. It was heavy because it was solid pottery. Each of these types have their own charm and reason they are desired. The porcelain from the hirado kilns were highly desired for their fine quality The craftsmen spent time cleaning and detailing their pieces before firing, and that makes all the difference in the finished product.
]]>2021-03-19T04:10:262021-03-19T04:10:26http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5844773&p=84181#p84181<![CDATA[Ceramic • Re: ceramic/porcelain/pottery]]> See some Staffordshire dog figurines here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staffords ... 20Scotland.
Re weight. My wife was saying that pottery tends to be heavier than porcelain china which is fired at a higher temperature and tends to be thinner and lighter.
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]]>2021-03-18T23:49:532021-03-18T23:49:53http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5844773&p=84178#p84178<![CDATA[Ceramic • Re: ceramic/porcelain/pottery]]> (The inro set is a black case hanging from a black Gama Sen-nin with 3-legged toad.)
]]>2021-03-18T13:17:302021-03-18T13:07:00http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5844773&p=84177#p84177<![CDATA[Ceramic • Re: ceramic/porcelain/pottery]]>Piers. Love the ojime.. it looks really old. I would love to see the entire set! Reinhardt, your shishi shows his age as well. What many don’t realize about these porcelain pieces is that after they are molded and still in greenware form, many have been detailed by hand by carving into them- such is the case with yours with your shishi with mouth opened up and details to the face. Some of them are hand formed as well, which may be the case with yours. The hand formed ones tend to be heavier, but perhaps we’re made more with pottery? Do you know?
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]]>2021-03-17T16:51:222021-03-17T16:51:22http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5844773&p=84174#p84174<![CDATA[Ceramic • Re: ceramic/porcelain/pottery]]> Okame posing as an Ama
Hirado porcelain. Hirado is an island offshore Kyushu, opposite to Korea. Korean potters had since long run kilns there till the beginning of the 17th century. Then the Japanese took over till today.
This Ama is a well formed and precise figure and allso rare. In the Toledo Museum of Art (Silverman's bequest) we find a similar work a "Pregnant Woman", describes as "porcelain with matte bisque Hirado glaze and stain", object No 2009.117.
The Ama has a nice shining glaze indeed,
64 mm 19th century
The female body with curvy shape, the playful teasing posture of her left arm, the upbound hair indicate, that she is the lustful Okame in her swimsuit,
