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International Netsuke Society - Bringing netsuke to the digital generation... 2024-04-22T07:51:38 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/feed.php?f=494804 2024-04-22T07:51:38 2024-04-22T07:51:38 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081646&p=87940#p87940
Probably not relevant here, but we find guns from Yonezawa with the character 米 burnt into the stock. 米 kome, rice, can also be read bei (as in 米国 Beikoku = America), or like on these guns, Yone (as in place names like Yonezawa). In fact 米 it has a raft of meanings and uses.

*For example the statement that Netsuke of sharks are not common 'probably because there are few sharks or whales in Japanese waters'. I am sure this is a fallacy and certainly in fishing communities they would have been very familiar with both. It is more likely that their shape made them less suitable as Netsuke subjects.

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Note the color, whiter than usual, and the skepticism ("Coincidence or not...") transpiring from Gabor's text about the multiple copies of that hit the market in the same period. Again, a paranoid mind might shiver at the thought of a forger intent on copying famous antler pieces from the Trumpf Collection book...

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which bears a full ⽶齋 Beisai signature in seal form:

The next-to-last record - supposedly reindeer antler - points to a picture , but comparing the details of the stain it is easy to conclude that it is in fact the same piece:

There is however another Beisai toad reproduced in a hard-to-find article by Anne Hull Grundy in Oriental Art 6/3 (1960), which is in turn cited in the Trumpf book:

The resemblance between these two toads and my ojime is so strong that, if the latter was in fact not carved by Beisai, it can only be considered a forgery meant to deceive.

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I think this is the same piece described (without picture) . Both Moss' book and the auction description mention another shark, which first surfaced in a reader's letter to Bushell in INCS-8/4:

Note that Bushell did not connect the ⽶ seal to Beisai. This piece (or a twin) then resurfaced . The antler looks remarkably white in the auction picture, and I see several similarities in style with the toad ojime (e.g., the making of the eyes):

A paranoid mind might start wondering whether "Harald Frohlich, West Germany, both carver and collector" had anything to do with it...

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There's not much to say here apart from the fact that the color of the antler appears to be a rich yellow.

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The style is so different from all of the other carvings in this thread that I'm wondering if it might be by a different Beisai, or maybe just bearing a fake signature.

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This was presumably the first Beisai carving to become widely known, as it was shown in Yuzuru Okada's 1951 book (also excerpted in MCI):

The picture of the underside does show the writing "Carved by Beisai 65-years-old", but it is not clear whether the information about Itsukushima mentioned by Ueda also comes from this same piece. Anyway, the deer pair must have been famous enough that it was parodied, so to speak, by this carving "signed Beisai" that was sold by Bonhams in 2014 as part of :

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What attracted me the most about this piece was the obvious relationship with one of my favorite pieces in the Trumpf Collection book, you are probably all familiar with:

I must now disclose that the buzz of my new acquisition - an expensive one for my standards - was quickly dampened when someone whose knowledge of materials vastly outweighs mine manifested skepticism that a piece of antler this white (and with dark areas looking so "fresh") could be about 150 years old. Oh well, I guess I'll have to live with the nagging doubt... Nevertheless, I set out to gather all the information I could about the purported author of the piece, and I wish to thank the fellow forum members who sent me pictures from the books and journals I did not have access to.

As far as I could determine, Beisai is first mentioned in Jonas' list. Here is part of the MCI entry on the carver:

The signature quoted by Ueda Reikichi (of which I could not find a full picture) places the carver in Itsukushima/Miyajima, an island off the coast from Hiroshima that is famous for a Shinto shrine, with its orange Torii that "floats" on the sea with the high tide. However, later authors stress the obvious Asakusa influence on Beisai's antler carvings. The Fuld index lists seven pieces under this name:

I could not find information about the Shachihoko, the corresponding reference KLEFISCH,2001/06/30-542 in Fuld must be an old auction catalogue (does anyone have it?). Also, the two toads at the end of the list are in fact the same Trumpf piece (see below). In the posts that follow I will share pictures and other info I found about the remaining five pieces, plus a couple more that Fuld appears to have missed.

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Anyway, I have made a PDF with the list of 3000+ names from the earlier version of the site, it's still of some use because it can be searched automatically.

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I did some search and found (quite) nothing about him.
His piece was probably on display at the Netsuke Convention, New York, 1995.
Does someone know about this carver, or have the journal of the convention ? :

The auction sale is over, I’m only curious about this compatriot .
Thank you

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