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netsuke and sagemono lounge International Netsuke Society - Bringing netsuke to the digital generation... 2024-04-28T18:27:49 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/feed.php?mode=news 2024-04-28T18:27:49 2024-04-28T18:27:49 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081648&p=87945#p87945 <![CDATA[International Netsuke Society now on Facebook]]> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1917116308530522 8-)
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2024-04-21T07:41:16 2024-04-21T07:41:16 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081647&p=87939#p87939 <![CDATA[Ivory mask netsuke]]>
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2024-04-20T12:14:46 2024-04-20T11:32:30 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081646&p=87927#p87927 <![CDATA[The Beisai thread]]>
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What attracted me the most about this piece was the obvious relationship with one of my favorite pieces in the Trumpf Collection book, you are probably all familiar with:

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I must now disclose that the buzz of my new acquisition - an expensive one for my standards - was quickly dampened when someone whose knowledge of materials vastly outweighs mine manifested skepticism that a piece of antler this white (and with dark areas looking so "fresh") could be about 150 years old. Oh well, I guess I'll have to live with the nagging doubt... Nevertheless, I set out to gather all the information I could about the purported author of the piece, and I wish to thank the fellow forum members who sent me pictures from the books and journals I did not have access to.

As far as I could determine, Beisai is first mentioned in Jonas' list. Here is part of the MCI entry on the carver:

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The signature quoted by Ueda Reikichi (of which I could not find a full picture) places the carver in Itsukushima/Miyajima, an island off the coast from Hiroshima that is famous for a Shinto shrine, with its orange Torii that "floats" on the sea with the high tide. However, later authors stress the obvious Asakusa influence on Beisai's antler carvings. The Fuld index lists seven pieces under this name:

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I could not find information about the Shachihoko, the corresponding reference KLEFISCH,2001/06/30-542 in Fuld must be an old auction catalogue (does anyone have it?). Also, the two toads at the end of the list are in fact the same Trumpf piece (see below). In the posts that follow I will share pictures and other info I found about the remaining five pieces, plus a couple more that Fuld appears to have missed.
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2024-04-18T18:51:50 2024-04-18T18:51:50 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081645&p=87916#p87916 <![CDATA[Museum collections, favourites!]]> https://www.mbam.qc.ca/en/collections/?q=netsuke

The work I selected as my favourite is described by the museum as Oguri Hangan. A large netsuke, finely modelled with all the pierced areas finished beautifully. It is impossible to outline further on the netsuke, I have sent a request for more images. Perhaps I can update my feelings on the piece later, including who I think may have made the piece.
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2024-04-15T10:21:58 2024-04-15T10:21:58 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081644&p=87883#p87883 <![CDATA[Lounge Errors - Update]]>
Around a year and a half ago the company that hosted this for us closed. I got this moved to a new hosting company, the new company has presented a number of challenges, especially regarding communications. The ISP has upgraded some components this site uses and should have coordinated with us regarding this. I've given e the Lounge a bit of TLC and I've sorted the recent errors you've been experiencing.

It may be that I will move this to a new host, but for now please remain patient, and I will commit to being more visible.
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2024-04-12T09:24:18 2024-04-12T09:24:18 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081643&p=87875#p87875 <![CDATA[First netsuke to start collecting]]>
1. Fisherman. 5 cm, 19 gr., Ivory, Masatomo signature, dated as XIX
2. Shoki and Oni. 5 cm., 13,4 gr., Ivory, couldn't read the signature (maybe you can help with that), dated as end of Edo period
3. Man with a child (Karako?). 6,5 cm, 32,5 gr., hippopotamus tusk, dated as early XX century
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2024-04-12T09:02:00 2024-04-12T09:02:00 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081641&p=87873#p87873 <![CDATA[Three netsuke for attribution]]>
1. Fisherman. 5 cm, 19 gr., Ivory, Masatomo signature, dated end of XIX century
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2024-03-26T19:38:17 2024-03-26T19:38:17 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081640&p=87866#p87866 <![CDATA[Thrifted collection worth appraising?]]>
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2024-02-21T22:45:30 2024-02-21T22:45:30 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081639&p=87858#p87858 <![CDATA[Yatate ID (YLO?)]]> Please forgive me for asking this question here. I hope yatate are considered a type of sagemono.
I was looking for basic information on the very large yatate (pictured with a "normal" sized yatate). I believe it could be a tourist piece or possibly a store display??? I can't imagine anyone carrying this in an obi (31cm/12 inches long; 3 inches wide; 742g/1.05 pounds).
Seems to be made of bronze or brass and does not appear to have been used.

Thank you,
John
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2024-02-04T22:10:14 2024-02-04T22:10:14 http://79.170.40.239/netsuke.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8081638&p=87841#p87841 <![CDATA[mystery mask?]]> Alison

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